The Future of Travel: “Consumers are valuing experiences over ownership” with Marcos Constandse…

The Future of Travel: “Consumers are valuing experiences over ownership” with Marcos Constandse Redko and Candice Georgiadis

Consumers are valuing experiences over ownership. More and more hotels and travel companies will offer unique and local experiences that can highlight a guest’s trip, no matter their background or their travel preferences.

As part of my series about “exciting developments in the travel industry over the next five years”, I had the pleasure of interviewing Marcos Constandse Redk. Marcos has worked for more than 20 years in the fields of architecture, real-estate development and sustainable tourism at Grupo Xcaret. He graduated with honors with a degree in architecture from Mexico City’s Universidad Iberoamericana, where he also earned a specialization in business administration. Due to his vast experience and passion for sustainable development, he has strived to ensure that all the companies he is involved in have a vision that emphasizes corporate social responsibility. Constandse serves as the VP of Finance and Business Administration and CEO of Grupo Xcaret. He is responsible for strategic planning, as well as overseeing the administrative, financial, legal and accounting departments, corporate governance and corporate social responsibility. Beyond his work with the Xcaret group of companies, he also serves on the executive boards of other real-estate development and hospitality companies in Mexico’s Riviera Maya. Currently, Constandse’s primary challenge consists of further developing Grupo Xcaret, an eco-friendly development set to feature a 6,000-hotel room capacity, a convention center, a shopping area, and a 12,000-seat stadium, all integrated with the Group’s already existent products and services. The Xcaret family proudly owns and operates six parks (Xcaret, Xel-Há, Xplor, Xplor Fuego, Xenses and Xoximilco) and two tours (Xichen and Xenotes). Additionally, in December 2017, Xcaret inaugurated its first hotel property: Hotel Xcaret Mexico. Featuring the unique All-Fun Inclusive™ concept, hotel guests can access the chain’s parks and tours free of charge, while also receiving the traditional all-inclusive perks. The group will also debut a second adventure park, Xavage, in late spring of 2019, and a new boutique hotel, La Casa de La Playa, in December of 2019. Under his current role, Constandse has helped shape Grupo Xcaret as a company that represents the very best of Mexico through all forms of art, including locally-inspired design and architecture.

Thank you so much for joining us! Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

I grew up surrounded by strong businessmen and I knew since early on that I wanted to become a leader. Miguel Quintana, president of Grupo Xcaret, and his partners (my father and my uncles — Oscar and Carlos Constandse) were founding partners of what would become Xcaret’s massive development. Growing up in the Riviera Maya, the sun and beach offering available throughout the region was already top-notch and was further expanded from the 1980s and onwards. My family, along with Quintana’s family, wanted to make sure that the projects we put forward had a positive impact on our community — especially a positive environmental impact. Following my studies, I joined the Xcaret family and haven’t looked back since. Today, I am more immersed than ever in sustainable tourism; it’s not only in my blood, it is what I believe differentiates our offering from the rest.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

When I first started the construction process for Cañón del Sumidero, an eco-friendly park situated in the state of Chiapas, I gathered a group of Cancun’s most talented engineers and headed up to Tuxtla Gutierrez. At the time, they were unaware of the land’s condition: it was located inside a canyon and that it had no car access. Upon their arrival, the engineers began asking questions, as they should have given the challenge, and I let them know that we’d start by building a panga — a marin vessel for cargo — and use boats as means of transportation for all materials and personnel. Consequently, we’d built a support village for the workers to sleep in. However, since there was no access to light, water or drainage, we’d have to carry light across hundreds of kilometers and create our own water and sewage system. Many times, we found ourselves recruiting additional construction personnel from nearby towns; more people meant less resources available for everyone, so I took it upon myself to ensure everyone that we’d make it out just fine. A year and a half later, we opened the Sumidero Canyon park, which to this day remains a must-visit, monumental beauty in Chiapas. Regardless of the complicated living situation, this was a great experience for all and to this day we reference so many memories from our time working together.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

We attribute our success to multiple factors, the primary one being that we understand that true business success needs to include respect for nature and empowering the communities we work with. We listen to our people: our clientele and our workforce — and this is something we’ve done for over 30 years.

Grupo Xcaret’s sustainable vision has strengthened over time, and many of the company’s sustainability initiatives reflect this. The park has facilitated the release of 12 million sea turtle hatchlings into the ocean and helped with the reintroduction of the scarlet macaw to the southwest of Mexico. Coral reef restoration, which promises to be an effective long-term solution to the damage caused by pollution, has also been extensively implemented. Moreover, before, during and after any construction, the site is inspected by industry professionals who can better inform us what can be done without damaging the area.

The Xcaret family has grown significantly since it was founded. Today, we boast almost 10,000 staff members who see the company as a way to contribute to efforts that will ensure the area’s wildlife thrives for decades to come. By hiring staff who are passionate about protecting Mexico’s natural beauty, we have safeguarded the legacy of our founding partners.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

Innovation and scaling the business are two of our strategic imperatives. After successfully launching eight parks and tours under the Grupo Xcaret portfolio, we decided that we needed to come full-circle in the hospitality and entertainment world. Our first step: launch a location where all the visitors that were flocking to our parks and tours could stay at. And we weren’t going to settle with a small, simple hotel. Much less, we weren’t going to develop a typical Cancun all-inclusive. At Hotel Xcaret Mexico, we offer our All-Fun Inclusive™ concept; guests have access to all of our nature parks and tours, as well as to luxury accommodations, high-end dining, complimentary airport transfers and free Wi-Fi. This took the tourism world as a surprise because many thought it wasn’t financially sustainable, but because Xcaret is owned and operated under the same business ecosystem we have made it work.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

My father, the engineer Marcos Constandse Madrazo, is a humanist, in its broadest sense, that is to say: he values ​​the human being and the condition of the human spirit, as the guiding axis of thought and its subsequent actions.

After a lot of work, many creative processes, and a lot of effort, he found the possibility of expressing his creativity always through work, which parallels his family, friends and trips (and a lifetime of philosophical search, personal, transpersonal) allowed him to find a sense of life, in which through the awareness of “his other self” he found the way to the search for transcendence.

On many occasions he has told me that the ultimate goal of mankind is to be happy. However, we both believe that happiness can only be found through the other, or only through the happiness (or love) of our neighbors is that we can find our own happiness.

In our talks there has not been a single day where the word “spirit” does not come out, the spirit of things, the spirit of the human being. And it has taught me that through awareness of this spirit, mine, yours, ours, is that we can, each of us, in our field, contribute to this collective spirit that evolves to bring us closer and closer to the truth, to beauty to ourselves or to God (in each of our own versions of it).

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

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We are working to enhance our All-Fun Inclusive™ concept by launching a new extreme adventure park called Xavage and La Casa de la Playa, our first boutique hotel.

Following an investment of US$85 million, La Casa de la Playa, a sustainable boutique hotel, will meet the industry’s highest standards and feature 63 spacious suites with private plunge pools, categorized in three concepts: Nature, Fun and Wellness. Conceived as a living sculpture grounded in urbane style and sustainable architecture to personify the pinnacle of Mexico, the boutique resort will come to life thanks to modern design elements, chic décor and dramatic common spaces juxtaposed by a lush, verdant surrounding. The extraordinary property will also house two pools, a spa, in-room spa services, mezcaleria, chocolate confectionary shop, wine cellar, library and multiple dining destinations.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

We are consolidating the experiences offered to travelers’ who seek to enjoy the region in which we operate through a unique entertainment offering that highlights the best natural and cultural features of the region and by providing upscale accommodations and amenities.

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

With great innovation comes challenging the status quo. As a group, we’ve contributed by adding value to the destination and have prompted other organizations in the Riviera Maya to put on their disruption hats and join us in generating positive change for all.

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

1. Consumers are valuing experiences over ownership. More and more hotels and travel companies will offer unique and local experiences that can highlight a guest’s trip, no matter their background or their travel preferences.

2. Ecotourism will continue to be on the rise and even the largest global hotel chains are taking note.

3. Local relevancy will continue to increase as tourism operators try to offer new opportunities where tourists can feel more immersed than ever in local cultures.

4. 21st century niche travel segments will continue to evolve: babymoons, medical tourism, gastrotourism, voluntourism, etc.

5. Multi-gen travel is here to stay.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

A perfect holiday experience must involve practical solutions that meet one’s expectations from the very beginning until the last second at the destination. By understanding and reaching that premise, we developed the concept “Everything flows,” which ensures every moment of a guest’s stay at any Grupo Xcaret property is appointed with the highest level of service quality, so that guests can truly experience our unique offerings that blend nature and authentic Mexican culture.

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

As a sustainable tourism conglomerate, we take daily measures to ensure that we minimize our carbon footprint, are energy efficient, use water responsibly and adequately manage waste. Some specific examples include:

· Reduced single-use plastic waste: The hotel uses straws made from avocado seeds and serves only purified water in reusable glass bottles.

· Waste management: All organic materials are taken to Xcaret Park and turned into compost that is then used in reforestation the surrounding area.

· Continuous contribution to Xcaret Animal Welfare and Endangered Species Conservation Programs, including Sea Turtle Conservation, Coral Reproduction and Scarlet Macaw Conservation.

Additionally, we implement programs to support vulnerable Mexican communities. For example, lamps in every room at Hotel Xcaret Mexico are made by inmates of a nearby prison as part of an educational program funded by the hotel that aims to rehabilitate through teaching them a trade and stained-glass decorations are made by indigenous communities in Oaxaca and Chiapas.

You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

In our 30 plus years of operation, we’ve began a movement towards further promoting sustainable tourism in Mexico. We openly share our best practices that can be applied across a variety of areas of expertise, hoping to ignite top entrepreneurs in the tourism sector and jointly build sustainable communities in Quintana Roo and across Mexico.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

@GrupoXcaret in twitter and Instagram.

This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!


The Future of Travel: “Consumers are valuing experiences over ownership” with Marcos Constandse… was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

The Future Of Travel, with Cliff Risman and Candice Georgiadis

Try to keep a good work/life balance. They are not going to inscribe your tombstone with how many deals you closed or how many hours your worked. So, in my opinion, give it 110%, but remember there is life outside of work.

As part of my series about “exciting developments in the travel industry over the next five years”, I had the pleasure of interviewing Cliff Risman, a veteran real estate lawyer at Foley Gardere who represents companies that develop, own, operate and finance hotels and resorts around the world.

Thank you for joining us. Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

I was representing a client on the sale of a hotel in the far Northern part of the United States. It turned out that the hotel restaurant was known for mesquite grilled food. At the closing, it became apparent that the parties wanted to do a proration for the stockpiles of mesquite wood located in the rear of the hotel. The only issue was that it was 20 degrees below zero outside and the wood was covered by several feet of snow. We waited in a conference room for hours while several “lucky” people went outside to count and verify the quantity of mesquite wood on site.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

I remember a client that owned many hotels but had several investors that were not very knowledgeable about hotels or real estate. The investors would call me incessantly to ask questions that I have never thought about. One example was: What happens if the surveyor makes a mistake? Does the surveyor have errors and omissions insurance? I had never thought about that issue and sort of ignored the questions. The investor was not happy and, consequently, my client was not happy. Long story short, I learned to try and be patient and polite with all parties involved in each transaction, whether experienced or novice.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

The Foley Gardere hospitality industry team stands out because we “know the industry.” As we say in Texas, this isn’t our first rodeo. We also stand out because we provide over the top client service; we pride ourselves on responsiveness.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

Try to keep a good work/life balance. They are not going to inscribe your tombstone with how many deals you closed or how many hours your worked. So, in my opinion, give it 110%, but remember there is life outside of work.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

I had two fabulous mentors in my early years. One was the managing partner of my first law firm and the second was our chairmen. They both taught me a lot; primarily about client service and business generation. I will always remember the pride I felt in the confidence they placed in me as a young lawyer. I will also say that as my career progressed, I have had a number of good clients that via referrals and recommendations helped me obtain other clients; not to mention the fact they have become great friends.

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

One of my pet peeves is sentences, provisions and documents that are just too long and complicated. Our team endeavors to keep things as simple and straightforward as possible under the circumstances.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

I think lawyers and law firms get a bad reputation for over complicating things. If you can protect your client and allow them to achieve their business objectives with shorter, simpler and less complicated documents and structures, you should do it.

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

I think a lot of lawyers tend to pull the last deal off the shelf and use those documents even if they are unnecessarily complicated or contain unneeded provisions. In some cases it is almost as though they believe they are being paid by the word. The same goes for comments made when negotiating and speaking. I think, and I believe our clients think, that it is refreshing when a lawyer “listens” and then only responds when necessary and does so clearly and succinctly without pontificating.

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

On this issue, I know every hotelier is trying to upgrade technology and make the experience of a hotel stay more user friendly for what they believe to be an ever increasingly technology savvy customer base. I hope they do not forget the human aspects of the industry and the meaning of the term “hospitality.”

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

Not sure that it is a direct correlation, but my occupational success has enabled me to get to know a lot of people from all walks of life, many of whom I would never have imagined meeting. I try very hard to use these relationships to help people. I really enjoy networking and connecting people; whether introducing clients who eventually do a deal together, or helping someone find their next opportunity.

This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!


The Future Of Travel, with Cliff Risman and Candice Georgiadis was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

“The Future Of Travel Will Be Unique Experiences” with Orlando and Attilio Pecchenino

The most important thing in my opinion is to offer unique experiences. Customer service and amenities are key but we have found success in bringing something different to the table — allowing our customers to experience “real life” at an Italian winery. Every experience is unique and must be perceived as unique by customers. Our guests enjoy our culture, they live it, they breathe it. The best way to travel is to be submerged by traditions which are part of the biodiversity of the land you are visiting. We believe you will see more and more travel and hospitality companies tuning into the unique experiences that draw travelers to them.

As part of my series about “exciting developments in the travel industry over the next five years”, I had the pleasure of interviewing Orlando and Attilio Pecchenino of the Pecchenino Wine Estate. The Pecchenino family has worked in viticultural for over four generations and made the leap from small wine production to a winery of international recognition under the brothers, Orlando and Attilio Pecchenino. Today, Pecchenino consists of 54 acres in Dogliani and an additional seven acres in Monforte. Focused on the production of high-quality Dolcetto, Nebbiolo and a few other select varietals, Pecchenino’s vines are painstakingly cared for by hand. In addition to its consistent high quality, Pecchenino distinguishes itself by being the only winery to produce Dolcetto aged in oak, resulting in Dolcetto wines with an aging potential of over 10 years.

Thank you so much for joining us! Can you tell us about your family’s history as it ties to the Pecchenino wine estate?

My family has lived in Langhe for almost 200 years. My great-grandfather moved here in the Dogliani area around 1800, when he started the wine business that we are still running today. After he passed away, my grandfather Attilio took over and after him my father, Marino, was in charge. Now, my brother and I are keeping the family tradition going strong. In 1994, we bought a very old country cottage that was built around 1600. We moved all our wine business here and set out to build a B&B, Casa Pecchenino, which was finalized and opened in 2010. The restoration was beautifully done and preserved the original architectural features by using local and traditional materials. Age-old architectural details lost to time were brought back to light. The original furnishings and decorations recreate the atmosphere of the traditional Langhe-style dwelling making the rooms more comfortable and home-like. The surroundings are lovely. The terrace gives onto the green valley that provides a spectacular contrast of scenery, from vineyards and meadows to the untamed countryside and mountain chain, running from the Ligurian Alps to the Valle d’Aosta massif, rising in the background. The majestic Monviso peak can hardly go unnoticed. At dawn and dusk, the sky turns the most amazing colors you will ever see.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you took on responsibility of the wine estate in 1987?

One of the hardest moments was when we decided to buy the “podere Bricco Botti” where we now have the core of our operation. It was a very old ruin in such a bad condition — every single corner of it showed us “stories” of the farmers who lived there in the past. These farmers had been very humble and hard-working people; firm and single-minded. Restoring it was very challenging but interesting and rewarding at the same time.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

I have made many mistakes. At the very beginning, I decided to create a new wine. Several years ago in Italy the best-selling wine of this area was a Freisa. Usually before the bottling process, the wine was refermented in stainless steel tanks. During the re-fermentation, the wine produced pressure in the tank. Unfortunately, the tank was not sealed properly, and the juice came out; we lost it all. I learned that day that winemaking is a very detail-oriented job and you need to be careful in every single step of the process.

What do you think makes your wine and Casa Pecchenino stand out? Can you share a story?

There is only one way to make wine. We grow the grapes in the vineyards and then, after the harvest, we work in the wineries to make it. When you are in control of the whole wine process, from viticulture management to the wine-making, you will be surprised to recognize in our wines the same approach and the unique expression of their terroir; Different grapes, different wines but the same personality and style. When you taste a wine, you can understand the personality of the wine-maker, his interpretation of the terroir. I remember when I started producing our first vintages, we were looking to create an opulent wine, but that style was not embodying our terroir. So, we decided to change approach and give elegance, balance and finesse to our products. We stayed true to our terroir, as does Casa Pecchenino. The surroundings are lovely, and the terrace overlooks the vineyards, meadows and mountain range, running from the Ligurian Alps to the Valle d’Aosta massif, rising in the background. Our guests can explore the area’s trekking, mountain bike and road bike trails. Casa Pecchenino offers personalized gourmet packages, including tastings of local food specialties and wining and dining at restaurants and inns serving traditional Langhe-style dishes.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

My suggestion is to work humbly, with an open mind in order to learn as much as possible, growing professionally and culturally. It’s important to keep your own identity despite the trends — especially if the trends are going in a different direction.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

I have to thank many people. Co-workers, friends, my family. Among all of them there is only one person, though, who always taught me to do my best either in my personal life and in my profession: my grandfather. Unfortunately, he passed away when I was very young, but I am sure he would have been proud of us now.

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries with Casa Pecchenino Bed and Breakfast?

Rebuilding our farmhouse was very hard and very expensive because it was old and ruined. We truly restored it to its original splendor. We could have spent that money on something different or invested it somewhere else but I felt the duty and responsibility to invest in our Piedmontese heritage- bringing back to life this historical farmhouse. We are the sons of this wonderful land and are the “keepers” of this beauty and we are called to defend and portray his legacy for future generations. That is why agritourism is so important. True agritourism should bring the traveler into close contact with the land and what it’s like to work to produce wonderful wines that reflect the beauty and uniqueness of the terroir. We offer tours of our winery and wine tastings, personalized gourmet tours, and tourist information and maps for trails and routes. In this way, we are a true host to our guests. They should feel as if they are visiting good friends who know the ins and outs of this area and will cater to their every need. It is a more personal experience than to stay miles away from all this beauty in a small, dark hotel room. Of course, we have all of the draws that tourists want like comfortably-furnished common areas that guests are always welcome to use for relaxing, reading and socializing, a fully-equipped kitchen, spacious indoor dining room for breakfast or dinner, outdoor room overlooking the vineyards, sitting room, gardens, TV, Wi-Fi, and bicycle and car parking areas.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing agritourism to the area?

Casa Pecchenino has five very comfortable rooms on the farmhouse’s first and second floor: four double rooms and one mini-apartment with a kitchen area. The farmhouse is equipped with a kitchen and two rooms, one outdoors and one indoors, for breakfast and dinner parties, for shared use by guests. This allows our guests to really experience being at the winery, and not just visiting for the day. We would like to offer the unique opportunity to visit Langhe and experience a day-to-day life in our wine land. The uniqueness of our land is what makes it so special. The landscape, the wines, the history that surrounds you is breathtaking and, above all, real. Here you experience real life. Emotions and feelings are submerged in our culture, in our hills, in our wines.

Can you share an example of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

The most important thing in my opinion is to offer unique experiences. Customer service and amenities are key but we have found success in bringing something different to the table — allowing our customers to experience “real life” at an Italian winery. Every experience is unique and must be perceived as unique by customers. Our guests enjoy our culture, they live it, they breathe it. The best way to travel is to be submerged by traditions which are part of the biodiversity of the land you are visiting. We believe you will see more and more travel and hospitality companies tuning into the unique experiences that draw travelers to them.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

Vacation to me means three things — relax, rest, and comfort.

Can you share with our readers how you have used your success to bring goodness to the world?

We felt the duty to give people the opportunity to enjoy the wonderful land that we are privileged to enjoy daily. We have the moral duty to keep the tradition and the culture that our ancestors alive, and furthermore to share it with others. We offer all of this in our little oasis of comforts. All our guests should feel at home here and we will continue to make their experiences here even more enjoyable.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

Website: www.pecchenino.com

Facebook: Pecchenino

Instagram: @pecchenino_winery

This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!


“The Future Of Travel Will Be Unique Experiences” with Orlando and Attilio Pecchenino was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

The Future Of Travel: “Traveling is how you express yourself” with Jay Roberts and Candice…

The Future Of Travel: “Traveling is how you express yourself” with Jay Roberts and Candice Georgiadis

Social media and inspired tourism: Millennials want to post cool photos and stories to document their experiences. Traveling is how you express yourself. Travelers choose locations for how cool a photo you can take.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Jay Roberts, the Co-Founder and CEO of Domio, a rapidly growing technology platform focused on travel. Domio is revolutionizing friends and family travel by creating branded apartment-hotels. Prior to Domio, he was an investment banker at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, advising REITs, real estate private equity firms, hotels and global casinos in strategic M&A, IPOs, and capital markets deals.

Thank you for joining us Jay! Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

After graduating from NYU’s Stern School of Business, I worked in real estate investment banking and acquisitions as an investment banker at Bank of America Merrill Lynch in New York where I specialized in institutional real estate mergers, acquisitions, initial public offerings and capital market transactions. During this time, I began renting out a spare bedroom in my apartment near Time Square and quickly realized it was extremely profitable. I found that there was an opportunity to provide better experiences to travelers. A less ‘wildcard’ experience in every market and more branded, comfortable and reliable experience for travelers who are seeking human connection and authenticity — this is how Domio was created.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

Throughout my career, I’ve always focused on helping other people and keeping my commitments. It’s so important to build genuine relationships with your colleagues and people in your industry. Your reputation is everything. When I was thinking about starting Domio, my coworkers from the Bank of America wanted to invest with me and they trusted me. My first three investors were from the bank, then it was a domino effect and more people in the network invested. Every round of fundraising we’ve done, we’ve had former colleagues in the round or people connected to former colleagues. An interesting story is when I was invited back to my bank to speak at a lodging conference along with the CEO of Hilton and other industry executives. Bottom line, things come full circle, so it’s important to treat everyone you interact with respect.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

A funny story is when we were called City Share (the first name of the company) and my co-founder Adrian was walking down the street of Manhattan and noticed a familiar logo for a real estate company that looked almost identical to our logo. It was at that moment, we realized we should undergo a rebranding, so we hired Prophet to guide us through that process. Through that 6-week process, we rebranded to Domio and became the purple logo’d company we are today.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

1) We’re obsessed with delighting our customers. Everyone in the company is focused on it and knows when we have promoters and what our daily NPS score is. We’re constantly training our staff to delight and surprise guests as happy guests are the key to our success. Differentiation through customer service is not something that happens overnight, but it happens slowly one interaction at a time, but word of mouth is powerful and that’s what we’re focused on. Creating an army of happy customers.

2) More and beautiful space — while a lot of the hospitality industry is going with smaller rooms, Domio is providing larger spaces for people to stay in together rather than be spread across multiple expensive rooms across different floors. We want our guests to have privacy but be able to connect with one another and have the space to be comfortable.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

One of Domio’s core values is “Enjoy the Journey — take time to travel and explore the world.” As a travel company, we want to make sure we support and encourage our team to take time off and go explore the world. People come back with fresh perspectives and full of new energy. Make sure that you consciously incorporate personal travel into your schedule. During the winter I like to spend time in Miami to get Vitamin D, lay by the beach and jet ski or wake surf. It’s important to unplug and recharge (not always think about work). You come back fresh and ready to go. This year, I plan to go to Tulum, Tokyo, and Shanghai (all places I’ve never been).

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

My adopted parents. My biological parents in Korea were too poor to raise me, so they put me in an orphanage where I lived for the first few months of my life. I was fortunate to be adopted and immigrated to the United States and grew up in Southern California. My mom was a secretary and my father sorted mail at the post office. We weren’t rich by any means, but my family instilled a very strong work ethic and belief that I could do whatever I put my mind to. They were a real positive influence on me. They gave me the opportunity to grow up in America. Unfortunately, they both passed away my senior year of college, but not before giving me the gift of education and a good upbringing with a set of core values that equipped me to pursue the American Dream.

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

Creating a new segment in hospitality called Apartment-hotels. Domio lives at the intersection of technology, travel, hospitality, and real estate.

We’re providing larger spaces where friends and families can connect. We want our customers to have the confidence of staying in a hotel but in the comfort of a larger home.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

Traditional home sharing (amateurs) — there’s a lack of consistency, reliability, and trust. It can really be a ‘wild card experience’

At Domio, we tried to look into the future and invent beautiful places that our guests will love and create lifelong memories that become a part of who they are

Domio is obsessed with delighting our customers and revolutionizing the home sharing industry

Traditional hotel rooms are too small for families and friends and are very costly

Domio provides a more affordable alternative for families and friends traveling together and costs 20–30% less than staying in hotels

You can also all stay under one roof and connect with each other. Traveling is about sharing new experiences, new cultures, meeting new people. We are connecting people under one roof which provides a more personal experience

The best memories I have from traveling are when staying in one place with my friends and hanging out and laughing about the adventure we went on

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

Larger and more affordable spaces = more access to travel

Travel won’t be seen as a luxury but is available to everyone no matter their socioeconomic situation

Big box, sterile — always have to compromise something depending on price — big box, maybe not so authentic and curated, boutique can be expensive, continue to innovate a product that embodies something for everyone

Human side back to travel — take a second to put your phone down, create experiences for the moment, the city, enjoy the people you’re with

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

1. Shoppable rooms and spaces: With the rise of technology and access on your phones, customers find pieces when they are traveling that they want to take home with them or incorporate into their home (order). We’ll be seeing more of this Domio is doing it and so is Soho House, Restoration Hardware’s hotel in Meatpacking NYC.

2. Social media and inspired tourism: Millennials want to post cool photos and stories to document their experiences. Traveling is how you express yourself. Travelers choose locations for how cool a photo you can take.

3. Wellness-focused hotels and retreats: People are looking to rejuvenate while on vacation — fitness, spas, massages, healthy eating, yoga, meditation, spending time with other like-minded people away from the hustle and bustle of everyday life. I see people going on more vacations to get away from city life and be one with nature.

4. Design-driven with focus on local: Hospitality brands will be incorporating more curated and local experiences into the rooms or apart-hotels. Travelers are looking for unique but clean and consistent spaces.

5. More affordable: With the rise of low-cost airlines and more routes for that matter, traveling has become more accessible to more people and that’s a great thing. Traveling is no longer just for wealthy people. Travel is a human right that everyone deserves.

6. Group travel (friends and families): More and more families and friends want to stay in one space together where they can connect and it’s more affordable.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

Starting off with a city or destination that I haven’t been before.

Excited about what it has to offer, have seen or heard about the restaurants, sights, people, culture have to offer — a memorable adventure.

Book flights, find a place to stay that is close to the action — downtown, value? Luxury? Good energy, a lot of space to enjoy with the people I’m traveling with.

Common space — connect with other people, local people, new, other travelers.

Some items on the agenda but have the freedom to explore, take experiences as they come.

Israel — adventure to a place that people had so many great things to say about, steep with a lot of history — warm weather, amazing beaches, the sun was the perfect temp — people were so friendly and food and wine were excellent.

I felt more connected to the local culture and people and more connected to friends who are from that area where we could share that common experience — see the world through their eyes.

Coming back and sharing the amazing experience and stories with others so they could also explore and see for themselves — can give rec’s to friends and family.

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

Travel is a personal experience, it’s everyone’s human right and by offering more affordable spaces, we give access — democratizing travel and bringing friends and families together.

New perspective — empathy for other people, cultures — understanding of the world and acceptance and awareness — realization we’re all one — making the world a better place.

You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

Companies giving their employees unlimited time off. Your employees are your greatest asset. You should encourage them to grow personally by exploring the world. I promise they’ll be happier and they’ll make your customers happier and happy customers will make you happier as a manager and will make your investors happy. Hire people that you trust so that you don’t have to worry about them abusing the system. I imagine a world where employees are encouraged to travel and take trips people celebrate other people’s travels rather than shaming people for taking vacation. At Domio, we celebrate our employees’ travels and have a wallpaper collage of our employees traveling around the world. Traveling is in our DNA.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayroberts8/?locale=de_DE

Website: jayroberts.com

Thank you for sharing all of this!


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The Future Of Travel: “The next generation will not want to spend a week on the beach and go back…

The Future Of Travel: “The next generation will not want to spend a week on the beach and go back to work for the rest of the year” with Jeremy Zick and Candice Georgiadis

I think knowledge is power and as people realize these opportunities and experiences exist they will have a fundamentally changed view of travel. I expect that the next generation will not want to spend a week on the beach and go back to work for the rest of the year when they know they can live and work and enjoy a stimulating community, while they travel around getting to know places, setting up business, and leveraging likeminded people skills and connections. It is my great hope that Lifeafar plays a fundamental role in changing the entire outlook on a vacation by providing homes away from home with elements that take the securities from home and the excitement and personal growth opportunities presented by travel and investment.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Jeremy Zick. Jeremy currently serves as President of Lifeafar. Jeremy has spent the last nine years serving in various roles in growing the Company from a four-person team to the 100-plus person, multiple-city, operation the Company is today. Jeremy built the Company’s architectural design and construction departments from the ground up where he was Lead Architect, Construction Manager, and the Director of Design-Build Services. Jeremy assumed the role of President when he was tasked with restructuring the Company, refocusing and recruiting talent and developing systems and processes to improve delivery throughout the Company’s departments. Jeremy holds a Bachelor’s degree in Environmental Design from the University of Colorado in a program geared toward sustainable and green architecture. His early hands-on experience in design and construction coupled with the experience gained through years serving the organization, give him a uniquely in-depth perspective on real estate development.

Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

Shortly after I graduated from the University of Colorado in Boulder with a degree in Environmental Design (architecture) the 2007–2008 recession hit. It was a terrible time to be looking for work in my field, and I found myself forcing my way into several meetings with firms who all said they were letting people go and were not hiring. At that point my brother and I decided to travel by car through Central America to Colombia where we had heard good things from those who had gone before. The trip was enlightening and I landed in Medellin where the economy was wildly different than the one I had left behind in the US. I had been reading a lot about real estate investment, with my degree and construction experience and I decided to look for opportunities in a city that I had fallen in love with. I landed with my current company Lifeafar in its infancy, as it was still primarily a real estate sales and very small property management company helping people buy property and rent it out while they were away. At the time Airbnb did not exist and there were no property management companies who dealt in short-term rentals so the hospitality component of Lifeafar was developed almost by default! I soon discovered one of my strengths was that I could motivate and automate the teams, allowing myself to use my management and leadership skills to focus on overall company strategy and direction. I quickly rose through the ranks and soon was elected as President.

Since then I have focused a great deal on leadership and development of our management and executive teams. I find myself often doing a round robin when dealing with the biggest opportunities for improvement or growth throughout all of our divisions (Investment, Hospitality, Design, Construction, etc.). We grew out the investment portion of the business with our packaged real estate deal to investors. As the business scaled, we took on more investment projects and the Airbnb effect took hold in the vacation rental industry, so we then focused more on the ever-important hospitality portion of our business, which is really the beating heart of our business. Now we have hundreds of properties under management, and we are armed with the knowledge that we need to remain ahead of the curve in hospitality to successfully deliver better than expected investor returns. This is a particular passion point for me, as in a lot of cases our investors are people who have chosen to put their retirement money or children’s college funds etc. with us. I do everything possible to exceed their expectations.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

The most interesting story may be watching the transformation of Lifeafar from a small startup to a medium size business where growth continues to accelerate! Early on it took so much force to grow the business and it felt like we were constantly pushing uphill against all kinds of resistance. Others and I were deeply involved in the day to day, and each of us did everything the business required. There was a specific turning point that occurred about six months ago where for the first time I realized that this business is growing itself. It is no longer the early group of people pushing it forward against all odds to create a workable business. That was an exciting revelation and super fun to see how it happened and see the greater potential that Lifeafar has as it continues to build momentum, which is to say we have an amazing team all pushing the business forward simultaneously at a faster pace than any of us early participants could have imagined.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

It is hard to find humor in some of the true mistakes, but one that I made while scaling up the Design and Construction portion of the business was taking on too much work before expanding the team. I was very optimistic that we could scale slowly as we went. This created a difficult period where team members were stretched thin and we were not able to work proactively in that scenario. I definitely learned to scale the team a little ahead of a big push to ensure everybody will be successful.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

What makes Lifeafar stand out is that we offer the same guests who stay in our units the ability to invest in them and run international passive real estate investments. I have always been surprised at the various backgrounds and circumstances of our clients. I was showing one investor who was looking to invest his children’s college fund with the goal to diversify out of the dollar and earn a good steady return. For me this really hit home in feeling the deep responsibility we have to our investors. It is fun because I see this as a challenge to be the best we can be. Another thing that has us stand out in the vacation rental market is that as asset managers we control the vast majority of our short-term inventory. This means that operational decision are all made by us which really streamlines the management process and allows us to push the properties to their highest potential.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

On the Hospitality side the whole industry is changing so fast with vacation rental markets rising and hotel chains trying to figure out if they need to be a part of vacation rental or not and in what capacity. There is a lot of learning going on and it’s unknown as to where this all will land so there are huge opportunities for market disruption. I have a feeling that those who focus on the experiential and lifestyle components of the stay while operating at a large enough scale to promote operational efficiencies will be the ones who define the future of the space.

On the investment side the crowdfunding opportunities have equally changed the paradigm. The simple fact that anybody who wants to put a small amount of money towards real estate investments that in the past were only reserved for the big money deals, is huge! This has a similar effect on the retail level investment opportunities, and those developers who show a consistent steady track record of success will have huge opportunities as the trend continues. Our secret is that we control the operation and therefore have full control over the long-term performance of the property. This is one critical secret that we have found great success in.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

This statement is so true! I am most grateful to the team I work with, and I have literally learned everything I know in business from them. I read a lot and have a series of mentors but for me to date the team has been my best teacher. Everybody comes at things from such different angles, with different passions. We are lucky to be headquartered out of Medellin and have the benefit of amazing professionals seeking to live here for a lifestyle change. We have local team members who have a different outlook and point of view. I like to get people in the room and I step out of the way and let them debate and collaborate while injecting guidance as needed. All the great ideas and subsequent implementation come from the team, and I learn so much from them in the process. I feel lucky to be where I am and surrounded by the Lifeafar culture.

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

We have been working on several fronts and have some things both in process and in the initial ideation stage. At the core we have recognized that people want to have a great experience, and often this is a hit or miss in the vacation rental market industry. For us it starts with design of the units. Amazing design is so important. Most of our clients want to feel like they are at home and we want them to have a better design than they have at home. Five years ago, we were the only group doing this in the cities we operate short-term vacation rentals, as the industry is riddled with people who throw a junk couch and bed in an apartment and try to rent for as much as possible. This leads to a lackluster experience at best. So we are working with an A+ design team that in many cases creates something that looks better than most people’s homes, which let’s face it, is part of the fun of traveling. But much deeper than the great design of the units is the service and subsequent experience people have. Again, in the vacation rental space there are a lot of subpar units that lead to subpar experiences of the guests, this is probably the achilles heel of the vacation rental market for the time being. Having consistently great experiences is so critically important for the future of the industry and something we are spending a lot of time developing and innovating. It’s our goal at Lifeafar to provide the consistency people expect in hotels but in the vacation rental market. Connectivity of likeminded guests, connectivity of guests with locals, and the ability to be productive in a location are all areas we are developing out in the hospitality space within the vacation rental market. My feeling is that these things will pave the future. Of course, our cherry on top is educating guests and investors alike on passive investment vehicles where they can fund their lifestyle with the returns they earn on projects. This is exciting and the unique connection between investment and property management has so many untold advantages for everybody involved.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

The specific pain point we are innovating around is the lack of consistency at a high level in the vacation rental market space and the lack of accessibility and education around international investment opportunities.

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

I think knowledge is power and as people realize these opportunities and experiences exist they will have a fundamentally changed view of travel. I expect that the next generation will not want to spend a week on the beach and go back to work for the rest of the year when they know they can live and work and enjoy a stimulating community, while they travel around getting to know places, setting up business, and leveraging likeminded people skills and connections. It is my great hope that Lifeafar plays a fundamental role in changing the entire outlook on a vacation by providing homes away from home with elements that take the securities from home and the excitement and personal growth opportunities presented by travel and investment.

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

  1. I expect platforms like Airbnb and VRBO to emphasize companies bringing on quality well managed inventory. The new travel mentality with the increased connectivity brought forth by the internet allows for people to work and live in new locations. I expect the concept of the two-week vacation and back to work mentality for many people will become an antiquated outlook on their travel. Incorporating travel with their daily lives will become more and more prominent. As such Lifeafar, and other forward-looking hospitality companies will start putting a much heavier emphasis on livable spaces that feel like home, not just a bed to sleep in, while connecting experiences with locals and other likeminded travelers. A sense of community will be at the core of the new traveler mentality as they seek to live abroad, not just visit abroad.
  2. I think hotels will promote large vacation rental buildings as their entrance into the vacation markets (already happening).
  3. Likewise, Airbnb will likely partner with more and more developers to bring large projects to market that are more sustainable and more cost effective that can also provide great experiences (also already happening). I think while Airbnb and other booking channels are focused on individual units, and that this will evolve into more curated experiences provided through larger companies like Lifeafar. This is good for booking platforms and good for guests, as quality and consistency of experience go up.
  4. I believe we will see strong unions made in the coworking environment and the vacation rental market development.
  5. Finally, I think that as people get more educated on investment possibilities and returns there will be a slow de-emphasizing of timeshare type investment opportunities replaced with more passive income opportunities along the lines of what Lifeafar creates. Again, knowledge is power and that can lead to improved lifestyle and the new connectivity brought by the continued evolution of the internet will have people thinking more like investors if they feel they want to own something overseas. I think the tendency will be to put their money with groups like Lifeafar so they can realize great returns and subsequently they will become more skeptical when approached with your average timeshare model.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

For me it is important to have a mission while traveling. That mission will inevitably put you in contact with new unknown people and cultures which gives you the traveler a deeper enjoyment of the experience and leads to new perspective in life. This mission can be any variety of things. I am reminded of my first international travel experience which was one that I think resonates deeply with how travel best suites me. I was delivering an old, falling apart, wooden sailboat to Thailand from Hawaii. What made the experience unique is that the boat was old and constantly had components breaking down. This meant that at port instead of relaxing with the other yachties (who by the way are a unique culture in their own right), we were constantly looking for shops, looking for parts, meeting people, getting tips on who can do what in terms of repairs and where they may live so we can track them down. It was amazing how deep these searches would bring us into learning the culture and build lasting relationships with some of the people involved in helping us find or repair this or that. They would be intrigued with our mission, and we would be intrigued with their world. This would lead to invites to peoples home and generally you would get a good sense of the inner workings of that culture. This mission-oriented travel can be very rewarding and is a great premise for cross fertilization of ideas, ideals, and two way learning in any arena that one chooses to pursue.

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

I think our fundamental mission at Lifeafar is bringing good to the world by helping educate people on experiences and opportunities that did not otherwise exist. I like to think as time goes on our energies and efforts to build out the amazing experiences and connectivity will result in people rising faster to live up to their own best version of themselves. I see this a bit like I see our business. You can grow and scale only as fast as knowledge can come to the table through relationships with great people. Being that time is finite, finding ways to accelerate your ability to grow as a person or a business is critical for any person wanting to achieve their best self. In the business environment we want to be able to scale quickly to achieve the best we can in the time we have, and it is well known that through networks and people you can achieve amazing things at an incredibly fast pace. I see this equally applicable in individual life, where building a network, and aligning with fun, inspiring and vastly different people (than you) is a great place to be. I see Lifeafar providing much of this infrastructure in the coming years so that people can grow to their greater potential. In addition, to this we are trying to contribute to the local greatest good through charitable donations in the cities where we operate. We want the travelers’ impact to be a positive one that can help to bring improved change to people’s lives. We feel this can happen through connectivity and accessibility of locals to our international travelers and through contributions made to great initiatives to help local communities.

You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

I mainly covered this above with the helping people to live up to their greater potentials.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

You can find me personally on LinkedIn and I encourage you to follow the next chapter in Lifeafar’s story on Instagram and YouTube, as well as our vlogger Sam Miller on his YouTube channel.

Thank you for all of these great insights!


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The Future Of Travel: “The new standard of luxury is not bigger, better guest rooms it’s memorable…

The Future Of Travel: “The new standard of luxury is not bigger, better guest rooms it’s memorable & unique travel experiences” with Javier Egipciaco and Candice Georgiadis

The new standard of luxury is not “bigger, better guest rooms,” it’s memorable, unique travel experiences. Travelers don’t want to stay in their rooms — they want to be out exploring. We’re addressing the shift toward experiential travel with this programming.

As part of my series about “exciting developments in the travel industry over the next five years”, I had the pleasure of interviewing Javier Egipciaco, Managing Director and Senior Vice President for Arlo Hotels. Javier brings more than 20 years of New York hospitality experience to his position at Arlo Hotels, an independent collection of four-star lifestyle hotels, where he manages the operations of all properties, and is overseeing the development of the brand into additional markets. Prior to joining Arlo, Javier was with Hersha Hospitality, a management, investment and development firm in the hospitality sector, where he served as the Corporate Director of Operations for the Independent Collection Hotels. In this role, Javier specialized in the development and implementation of brand-wide initiatives for HHM’s curated portfolio of independent properties. He has also held various leadership and operational roles with Park Hyatt, where he began his hospitality career.

Thank you so much for joining us! Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

I didn’t really choose a specific role, I just knew I wanted to be in hotels. I would have taken whatever position I was offered at the time. Someone advised me I should start as a bellman to truly understand service culture from the very beginning of the guest experience, which is probably one of the best pieces of advice I have ever received. I preach that it’s all about service at every level of hospitality, and even after moving up through the ranks, I can say that this key learning has stuck with me from my first job as a bellman.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

Checking in celebrities was always fun! The best “how did I get here” moment came early in my career when I accepted a position as a front desk agent with The Stanhope, an iconic hotel on the Upper East Side, only to find out they were selling the hotel six months later. The buyer? Hyatt Hotels & Resorts. From then on, I was surrounded by the best in the business, developed long-lasting skills, and found lifelong mentors. This experience jump-started my career path in management and I never looked back.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

I once put the wrong piece of luggage in a cab for a guest! This was funny to me and some peers around me, but not funny to the guest. I personally had to drive out to LaGuardia Airport, retrieve the luggage, and deliver it to the guest at JFK Airport. Fortunately, I got it to them before their flight left. Lesson learned — check the names on luggage tags!

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

This sounds cliché but I would say it’s the culture we create daily. Remaining accessible in any role is important. Sharing stories like I am with you now grounds people and shows we’re human and approachable. It has to be organic though. Our core values were created by the people for the people. I love what I’m doing and everyone knows it; the hope is that this energy is contagious and continues to motivate people to be the best person they can be while working on our team.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

Tomorrow is another day. Keep things simple. If you find yourself working 50 to 60 hours a week, then something is wrong. Work life balance is critical to high performance. It’s the quality of hours worked, not quantity, that’s important. Take a breather when work gets the best of you, because the work will always be there when you get back!

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

Yes. Several actually. I believe having one or two great mentors is essential, however, I’m lucky enough to attribute my success to several people who truly impacted my management style and overall outlook on the hospitality industry. One of the critical small snippets of advice? Sometimes the best emails are the ones that aren’t sent. Think about that a little and you’ll get it.

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

We’re pushing the boundaries of what hospitality means. Whereas hotels used to be a uniform, somewhat sterile experience, the industry is responding to the influx of “millennial-minded” travelers who crave unique, memorable experiences. Arlo puts a huge emphasis on our high-design public spaces, and activating them to draw in guests as well as locals. We also take pride in our local outreach. We bolster local entrepreneurs looking for a place to showcase their skills or business. By bringing them into our hotels and hosting panels, live music events, culinary showcases, mixology classes, etc., we’re giving travelers a one-of-a-kind experience while also remaining an active member of our neighborhood.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

The new standard of luxury is not “bigger, better guest rooms,” it’s memorable, unique travel experiences. Travelers don’t want to stay in their rooms — they want to be out exploring. We’re addressing the shift toward experiential travel with this programming.

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

We’re already seeing large hospitality brands like Marriot and Hilton exploring our model of business. They’re putting a focus on public spaces and engaging programming. More and more travelers are going to be seeking out this option.

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

· More in-hotel programming, keeping guests on site and engaged with the brand.

· Flexible check in processes to cater to all types of travelers, whether they want that human interaction during check in, or want to head straight to their room with keyless entry technology.

· Social media is king. We used to outsource the planning and community management of our social platforms, but we’ve found that more and more travelers look to social media when planning a stay, and it’s essential to not only stay responsive, but to also curate engaging content to reach past, existing and new guests.

· Technology will continue to evolve surrounding travel. How can we make it easier for people to travel? New planning apps? OTA innovations?

· Experiential and/or “educational” travel — guests want to take something home with them that’s not a material possession.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

Golf and sun! That would be my selfish perfect vacation experience. Although I also have this list of incredible hotels around the world that are on my bucket list. I’m talking about hospitality at its finest. Simply going away and experiencing memorable service in an incredible location. That for me is a good time.

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

We work closely with Henry Street Settlement, a not-for-profit social service agency in the Lower East Side neighborhood of Manhattan that provides social services, arts programs and health care services to New Yorkers of all ages. I’m an alum of the program and am thrilled to be able to help them in my professional career. We have a monthly residency serving meals to seniors that our whole staff takes part in, and I also invite high school-aged children to come to Arlo, see what I do, and learn how to put dreams into action.

You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

Properly compensate those in education at public schools! This is a vastly underpaid community of individuals who don’t get the recognition they deserve. I grew up in the New York City public school system, and credit those teachers with helping me through my formative adolescent years, and molding me into the person I today.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

Follow Arlo at @arlohotels on Instagram!

This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!


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The Future Of Travel: “Curated experiences, not just blanket recommendations” with Shreyas ‘JR’…

The Future Of Travel: “Curated experiences, not just blanket recommendations” with Shreyas ‘JR’ Patel and Candice Georgiadis

Hotels today are pushing local experiences, but, frankly, I don’t think local experiences cut it. Consumers are looking for genuine experiences. If you have someone visiting Chicago for the first time and they say, “I want to try deep dish pizza”, anyone can rattle off the top locations and then say, “Pick one. They’re all great.” That is local. If you say, “Hey, you should check out ABC place, located at X, it’s the best pizza you will ever have in the city!” that is genuine. That’s what guests are really looking for — curated experiences, not just blanket recommendations.

As part of my series about “exciting developments in the travel industry over the next five years”, I had the pleasure of interviewing President and COO of Helix Hospitality, Shreyas ‘JR’ Patel. Patel has overseen the restructuring and expansion of Helix’s network of hotels and has grown the company’s investment portfolio from $10 million to over $100 million in less than 10 years. Patel’s journey with Helix Hospitality began in 2009 after he graduated early from DePaul University with a dual degree in Finance and Management. He moved to Montgomery, Alabama where he worked at Helix’s first property, getting firsthand experience learning the ins and outs of hotel management. Wanting to absorb as much as possible, he helped out wherever needed, including cleaning rooms and working the front desk. As Patel advanced, his business acumen and creative thinking opened up new opportunities for Helix. In 2012, Patel managed his first acquisition, a high-risk property that he guided to success and subsequently sold at a profit. Patel returned to Chicago and the company’s main office, where under his leadership, the company has grown to over 300 employees and the investment portfolio has increased tenfold. Outside the office, Patel is committed to helping the next generation of hospitality professionals. In addition to mentoring undergraduate students, where he offers relatable, real-world advice and hands-on practical knowledge of the hospitality industry, Patel also serves as a board member for the DePaul University School of Hospitality Leadership and co-chairs the Academic Program subcommittee, further developing DePaul’s Hospitality program.

Thank you so much for joining us! Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

After I graduated from DePaul University in 2009, I had the opportunity to work at a family-owned property in Montgomery, Alabama. I was determined to learn the ins and outs of hotel management, so I spent the time absorbing as much as possible, including cleaning rooms and working the front desk. A few years later, I founded Helix Hospitality to own and manage properties across the country. Under my leadership, our investment portfolio has grown from $10 million to over $100 million in less than 10 years.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

This is one I’ll never forget — I was selling the first property I took over. The night before we were supposed to close, I was sitting in my room and heard a really loud explosion. I walked outside and saw that most of the power was out. The property manager had already called the utility company and found out the 2000 amp electrical lines into the hotel had been cut, causing a brown-out. It caused a complete panic since the closing was scheduled for 9 a.m. the next morning. We scrambled to figure out how to fix everything in time. Thankfully, the utility company worked with us through the night and was able to repair the lines. The buyers walked in the next morning and had no idea.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

Two stories come to mind:

-Back when I was very still green, I signed a legal document for a bank that had my name spelled incorrectly. It took me weeks to explain to the bank that both spellings were actually mine. They were very confused and couldn’t get past the idea that there weren’t two separate people. To make matters worse, they produced additional documents from the originals with the wrong spelling. Moral of the story: read — no triple-check — anything you sign!

-I went into one of the first property takeovers without planning for all the challenges we might face. My Director of Operations and I walked in 72 hours before closing (per our contract), and the existing team of 20+ people staged a walkout — taking hangers, toiletries and even artwork from the lobby! Since we hadn’t officially closed the deal, we had no authority over the situation. Looking back, it was quite comical — but — the lessons learned there are — communication is key and have your ducks in a row when prepping your team for takeover day.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

We have such a variety of backgrounds and experiences within our leadership team at Helix Hospitality, from traditional backgrounds in finance and management to less traditional ones such as microbiology and nuclear physics. We take our unique experiences and apply those perspectives to the work at hand on a daily basis. The problem solving ability of a team with so many different backgrounds and experiences is tremendous. We never know who might be walking through our doors, but we are dedicated to providing a best-in-class experience to everyone. I don’t think a lot of organizations are comfortable having so many intra-disciplinary but hospitality focused individuals on a team.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

Build a great team and delegate. Train someone to be able to manage in your absence. Learn to trust in their abilities while understanding that a team member’s mistake is equivalent to your mistake as a leader. That is the core of it.

I have experienced burnout twice in my career. In 2015, we were on a roll; it was a big year filled with acquisition projects. I took on too much, and before I knew it, I completely shut down, I couldn’t go forward. I had run my already super-lean team into the ground. I had to step away and ask myself what I was doing and what I wanted. I pulled myself up by putting together a plan with a 5 to 10-year outlook, along with building a team that could support me through it all.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

Two people come to mind…

-My dad is the ultimate entrepreneur. He taught me about grit, the industry, the art of seeing a project through, how to make a little go a long way and how to build relationships by following through on what you say you’re going to do. He built a reputation on being true to his word, something that’s hard to find.

-Years ago, I brought on a Director of Operations. I understood the industry from being in it at a young age and had a basic knowledge of deals, but I didn’t have the polish that comes with his level of experience. He became a mentor to me and opened so many doors and connected me to other people who had deep industry experience. He went as far as accompanying me to conferences to make in-person introductions. He was truly phenomenal and helped pave my path to success.

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

I recently wrote a piece of original content that was published in Green Lodging News titled “What About Those Sustainability & Green Initiatives?”. In it, I discuss the fixed life expectancy of certain items in hotel rooms plus the volume of renovation currently underway across the industry. Based on a conversation with a friend over drinks, I put a spotlight on the idea that sleek new energy-efficient features in our rooms just don’t justify the amount of waste our industry creates. Ultimately, I posed critical questions about how we think about sustainability in a systematic way and innovate accordingly.

I’ve received so much positive feedback on the content and am working on developing this concept further. As I say in the article, “It’s up to both the developers of the future and the operators of today to push the boundaries further to prevent real estate from turning into yet another disposable commodity.”

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

Up until now, the concept of being efficient and conscientious within the industry has been dumped on the guest. If you love the earth and you don’t want your linens changed, put this card on the bed. If you don’t want towels replaced, hang them up. Candidly, it isn’t the responsibility of the guests to do that. In our guests’ minds, they are spending X amount of dollars to stay at our hotel; they want fresh sheets every day, beds made in the morning, fresh towels and robes. We owe them that service.

We live in a culture full of constant upgrades and ever-changing consumer demands. As an industry, we should recognize this and move toward a more sustainable model without putting the onus on the guest.

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

Green design innovations could change how quickly our industry can responsibly adapt to ever-changing consumer demands and would allow property owners to maintain rooms at a much more practical price point. As a result, we would likely see properties across the board become nimbler at upgrading; see an uptick in how well properties are maintained at a lower cost; and, most importantly, see a substantial reduction in waste and an adoption of a more sustainable approach to construction and renovations.

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

1. Differentiation — With brand mergers like Marriott/Starwood, emerging concepts and even boutique hotel experiences, who knows what a particular brand means what anymore. It is difficult to figure out who represents what.

2. Genuine experiences — Hotels today are pushing local experiences, but, frankly, I don’t think local experiences cut it. Consumers are looking for genuine experiences. If you have someone visiting Chicago for the first time and they say, “I want to try deep dish pizza”, anyone can rattle off the top locations and then say, “Pick one. They’re all great.” That is local. If you say, “Hey, you should check out ABC place, located at X, it’s the best pizza you will ever have in the city!” that is genuine. That’s what guests are really looking for — curated experiences, not just blanket recommendations.

3. Technology — As consumers, we all want this and are incorporating it into our homes every day, so why not in our hotel rooms? We’re seeing the industry shift into this mindset with the installation of smart TVs, docking stations and standard WiFi, but we need to move faster.

4. Communal space — The last decade of hotel development has been all about big lobbies, bars and restaurants — spaces for guests to get out of their hotel rooms and be social. Unfortunately, there is still a need for semi-private spaces. This is where Airbnb has an advantage. If you are going on a friends’ trip for a weekend and there are seven or eight people, you are probably going to go this route just so you have a living room and kitchen where you can hang out and enjoy time with your friends.

5. Operations — Nimble revenue management. Every manager deals with supply and demand and what the rate should be depending on reactive booking. Brands across the industry realize this is a problem. We have booking windows, (basically how far in advance you start to see rooms booked). Ten years ago, the window was two months because corporate travelers knew what their schedule would be months in advance. Now, advance notice has scaled down to less than a week, often just two or three days. Also, accessibility has changed so much; you can book online or on your phone instead of relying on a travel agent or office assistant. Our industry needs to be more aware of how people are booking and how far in advance they are booking, then allow it to trickle down to the hotel companies. We would all be more profitable if we put more emphasis on how and when guests are consuming the product.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

Ocean, sand, cold beverages, umbrellas and somewhere/something to grill! This may seem like a modest fantasy, but I think anyone with a personal connection to the business would agree: if you work in the business, you don’t want to take a vacation in the business.

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

Currently, I serve on the Hospitality Advisory Committee within DePaul University Chicago’s School of Hospitality Leadership. This industry has historically been taught on the job, offering experience-driven positions. Now, you have higher institutions of learning offer programs that teach skills in a classroom setting that used to be taught on the job. The opportunity to mentor allows me to be a part of shaping not only curriculum but future leaders of this industry.

You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

Greater access to education. I’m not saying we should have a society full of scholars, but I do think there is so much potential across the globe that could be enriched by more access to quality education. It could change more than one person’s life; it could change the trajectory of an entire country. Education means progress.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shreyas-jr-patel-931bb635/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/helix-hospitality/

https://www.facebook.com/helixhotels/

https://twitter.com/HelixHotels

https://www.instagram.com/helixhotels/

This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!


The Future Of Travel: “Curated experiences, not just blanket recommendations” with Shreyas ‘JR’… was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

The Social Impact Heroes of Social Media: with Chris Strub the ‘Giving Day Guy’

I’d say broadly that on social media, it’s not about you, it’s about them — your audience. My good friend and colleague in the social media industry often says it best: “Think Like a Fan.” What sort of content does your audience want to see, and how exactly can it benefit them? When you put your audience’s needs first, you’ll be in great shape.

As a part of my series about social media stars who are using their platform to make a significant social impact, I had the pleasure of interviewing Chris Strub. Chris works with both for-profits and nonprofits to help them improve their social media strategies and level up their use of video — and he speaks around the world about similar topics. As the ‘Giving Day Guy,’ Chris partners with giving days around the United States to amplify the causes of thousands of nonprofits and help raise tens of millions of dollars. Chris is the first person to live-stream and Snapchat in all 50 U.S. states, and he is the author of ’50 States, 100 Days: The Book,’ about that summer 2015 journey.

Thank you so much for doing this with us! Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

I landed my first ‘real’ job at a newspaper in Binghamton, NY, in 2006 — right at the forefront of the Facebook era. As one of the only true digital natives in the Press & Sun-Bulletin newsroom, I was often tasked with helping the staff figure out how to best leverage emerging tools like Facebook and Twitter. After several years of pioneering a social media strategy for the newspaper, I made the leap in 2012 into the role of ‘Social Media Director’ at a New York advertising agency. But after two years of working the 9-to-5, I decided that I wanted to see more of the country, so I quit to go on a road trip. Solo cross-country travel opened my eyes to a lot, but it wasn’t until the following summer (2015) that I knew that I wanted to work with as many nonprofits as possible.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you began this career?

At the very first social media conference I ever attended, the Social Shake-Up in 2014 in Atlanta, I was scouring the event’s hashtag in search of other professionals also conversing about the event. I encountered a tweet from a gentleman named Dan Gingiss — @dgingiss on Twitter — about how he was amused by a panel taking place about millennial marketing — without a single millennial on stage. Retweeting that tweet sparked a friendship with Dan, who was then working as a C-suite marketing executive with Discover, and would soon move on to similar executive roles with Humana and McDonald’s. But it was our shared love of the Chicago Cubs that helped facilitate conversations on social media that has led us to both work together and speak together on the same stages around the country — including one of my first speaking gigs, at that same Social Shake-Up event in the spring of 2017.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

There were certainly countless mistakes made during the execution of ’50 States, 100 Days,’ which took place from May 15 to Aug. 21, 2015. I suppose the most amusing one, in retrospect, was trying to cram in visits to nonprofits in six states in seven days: Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut. I can laugh now, but it wasn’t funny at the time, with my brain feeling like Jell-O as I cruised down I-95, south of Hartford, back to Long Island. But the lesson learned that week has certainly stood the test of time: whether you try and do a lot, or conserve and do a little, at the end of the day, you’re still going to be spent — so you might as well think as big as you can.

Ok super. Let’s now jump to the core focus of our interview. Can you describe to our readers how you are using your platform to make a significant social impact?

Sure can. After four-plus years of scrambling and trying to figure out different approaches, I decided last fall to focus closely on community-focused giving days. Facilitated by companies like GiveGab or CiviCore, and made possible by local, regional or state-wide community foundations and/or nonprofit councils, these 24-hour online donation events are blossoming in popularity around the country. Because the call to action — donate — and the corresponding community activities are squeezed into that 24-hour period, giving days are the ideal opportunity for organizations to utilize live-streaming video in a way that provides massive value all around. I’ve taken my expertise in the journalism industry, blended it with an eye for marketing, and stirred in several years of trial-and-error as a live-streaming video solopreneur to build a business model that allows me to bring enormous value to giving days, anywhere in the country. In San Antonio, we broadcasted live on Facebook at least once for 18 consecutive hours; in St. Louis, we shared 10 lengthy Facebook Live broadcasts in a single day, including seven consecutive remote broadcasts from nonprofits of all different backgrounds. The corresponding reaction spikes on social media lend perfectly to the call for donations that expires at midnight.

Wow! Can you tell us a story about a particular individual who was impacted by this cause?

On May 1 in St. Louis, as I traveled around the community with my briefcase full of live-streaming gear, nearly every nonprofit we encountered was raving about how they were blowing away their year-over-year goals. In particular, Andrew Gibson, the executive director of the Freedom Arts & Education Center, was overjoyed about the response taking place from the community on #GiveSTLDay. In my Facebook Live interview with him, he explains the immediacy of the need for his organization and how he and the staff have been overwhelmed by the response from the community: https://www.facebook.com/stlouisgives/videos/376731902935908/

Was there a tipping point the made you decide to focus on this particular area? Can you share a story about that?

The first giving day that I worked with was Give For Good Louisville (#GiveForGoodLou) in 2017, when we leveraged live video to raise $4.6 million in 24 hours. The event is hosted by the Community Foundation of Louisville each September. When I had my initial consult with Cara Baribeau, formerly of the Community Foundation of Louisville, she was overwhelmed by the idea of using live video during their giving day. In fact, the organization has taken the idea of using live-streaming video to new levels, creating an annual series called ‘Getting to Know the Good,’ which spotlights nonprofits in and around Louisville throughout the summer, in the lead-up to their giving day. This creates an extraordinarily engaged and interested live audience that adds up to incredibly strong viewership data, year after year.

Are there things the community/society/politicians can do help you address the root of the problem you are trying to solve?

Giving days, by their nature, are designed to democratically address the needs of many participating organizations around the community. In the case of Give STL Day in St. Louis, more than 850 nonprofits participated. I’m blessed to have the opportunity to work with many different types of nonprofits, almost all of which suffer from the idea of not being ‘cool’ on social media. Because of the way Facebook and other social media platforms ‘reward’ content that is engaged with, it can be helpful to simply stop by the Facebook page of your favorite nonprofit — or the central organization behind your community’s giving day — and leave some encouraging comments. Even just a small bit of attention can be invaluable.

What specific strategies have you been using to promote and advance this cause? Can you recommend any good tips for people who want to follow your lead and use their social platform for a social good?

Giving days are the perfect opportunity to use live-streaming video, because so much of the action is concentrated on that particular day. My best piece of advice for someone wanting to follow my lead would be to identify the time(s) when people are paying the most attention to your organization/cause, and make sure you’re shining the light the brightest during those times. Don’t be shy to be experimental; audiences on social media are often much more compassionate and understanding of gaffes and mistakes than we might think.

What is your “something I wish someone told me when I first started” and why?

I’d say broadly that on social media, it’s not about you, it’s about them — your audience. My good friend and colleague in the social media industry often says it best: “Think Like a Fan.” What sort of content does your audience want to see, and how exactly can it benefit them? When you put your audience’s needs first, you’ll be in great shape.

You are a person of enormous influence. If you could inspire a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

Boy, that’s a big question. I think we all share, deep in our hearts, a common goal of world peace, but short of that, I think we’re on the verge of the emergence of ‘roadtrip marketing’ — the idea of eschewing the antiquated idea of strategizing in a boardroom somewhere, and getting out on the road and connecting with people, be it within your organization, your company, what have you. As AI becomes more and more prevalent, it’s going to become increasingly important to remember that our organizations consist of human beings. This is why I was so thrilled to serve as a Red Kettle Ambassador for The Salvation Army USA in 2017, and complete the 25-state, 38-day ‘Fight For Good Tour,’ which took me from Houston to New York City.

Can you please give us your favorite “Life Lesson Quote”? Can you share how that was relevant to you in your life?

During ’50 States, 100 Days,’ I asked each participating nonprofit organization to sign my car — a 2007 Honda Accord, which I called the ‘Honda Hotel’ — with their best piece of advice for a young person. (Yes, physically sign, with a paint marker — and yes, most of it does come off.) The very first thing written on the car was ‘E.W.O.P.,’ by the late Kim Brown, of the Carolina Youth Development Center. This acronym stands for ‘Everything Works Out Perfectly,’ and it’s a mantra that has stood with me since the day she wrote it: May 16, 2015. All the quotes that were written on the car are featured in ’50 States, 100 Days: The Book,’ and another one that I really vibed with was ‘I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees’ — a quote from Emiliano Zapata that was written by Vanessa Escarcega, out in Boulder, Colo.

Is there a person in the world, or in the US whom you would love to have a private breakfast or lunch with, and why? He or she might just see this, especially if we tag them. 🙂

There’s a number of different ways to answer this particular question — I think, for sure, I’d love to share breakfast with, say, Natalie Portman, or Jennifer Lawrence — but philosophically speaking, I’d find a lot of meaning in meeting with Barack Obama. As a white male born and raised in New York, I can’t possibly imagine the vitriol, public and private, that he’s gone through over the course of his career, and I think it’d be fascinating to hear more about how he successfully navigated his way to the White House while inspiring hundreds of millions of young people of all ethnicities along the way.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

The best places to find me are on Twitter, @ChrisStrub, or on Instagram, @ChrisStrub — and my website is www.teamstrub.com.

This was very meaningful, thank you so much!


The Social Impact Heroes of Social Media: with Chris Strub the ‘Giving Day Guy’ was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

The Future of Travel: “Hospitality will be healthier when it comes to food and beverage offerings”…

The Future of Travel: “Hospitality will be healthier when it comes to food and beverage offerings” with Rafael Museri and Candice Georgiadis

Hospitality will be healthier when it comes to food and beverage offerings. They will need to encourage guests to have a more active role in wellness activities. This is a generation that cares and is conscious of their health and how to improve it.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Rafael Museri of Selina.

Thank you so much for joining us! Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

Overall, it’s the story of me falling in love with travel. I’ve traveled from big cities to off the grid locations and it ignited this passion in me to want to know more about different cultures and experiences and wanting to know how to make more people know and experience this is what brought me to this path.

I also came to recognize that the best experiences in my life were not related to money or material things but with unique moments and unique spaces and is usually connected with simplicity.

Traveling the world is incredible and the best experiences are the simple ones, which is what brought me to this specific career path.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

The decision to live in a fisherman village in Panama and being part of this group of people with the passion to develop an amazing international community there. Moving to live in this town for 5 years and connecting with the local community there is the most interesting story and how I connect this part of my life for what later became Selina.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

I don’t know if this is funny, but I tried to be a developer and deal with construction and I failed. It’s the biggest lesson learned, but it’s what lead to us turning the Selina model into converting existing hotels versus building completely new structures. For me to think that I tried, is an accomplishment in itself.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

Seina is the place to connect and to meet people, not just a place to sleep. While we put time and effort into customer service and hospitality for our guests, we strongly focus on developing strong offline content and programming around it to give our guests full experiences. We aren’t just focusing getting people to sleep in our rooms but to consume our content and programming and that’s what makes Selina unique.

There are other hospitality brands in the market that only offer a place to sleep with no interaction of other human beings. If we go deeper, Selina is making people more comfortable when they travel. Every time they step into Selina they can feel comfortable not only with the space but with who they are.

When we opened the first Selina, none of us understood anything about hospitality or worked previously in the industry. However, we built the first Selina around the experience, the events, the content and the community and because of that it has become the coolest place in the country — the fun place to be. As we’ve continued to grow, we realized that we were good at hospitality through building content and when we did, it lead us to understand that content is key.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

My tip would be that you need to be the customer of your own product. If you really love what you do and you keep it real and fun, your work becomes your life and your life becomes your work.

Entrepreneurs and CEO’s need to dedicate all of their time to these projects — if in your free time you are not enjoying your own product you need to create two separate lives: personal and work life.

The challenge is that when that moment comes that you need free time or to disconnect and find a way to be a customer of your own product, that’s when it’s truly amazing. But of course, at the same time, you need to keep dreaming and exploring places around the world and think a lot outside the box to continue to expand your business. I connect my passion of exploring new places and learning new cultures with my job at Selina.

In May I plan to cross Marruecos — that’s a top destination for 2021. I know I will have an amazing time but at the same time will be exposed to new culture and new, beautiful spaces that will eventually have a Selina presence.

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

I’m grateful for Daniel Rudasevski, co-founder and Business Development Real Estate Officer of Selina. He’s my 50/50 partner and built it with me since day 1. Daniel and I are sharing challenges, the good things and the lessons learned.

The story is that Daniel and I met by coincidence on a beach in Costa Rica. We both enjoy the nature and the lifestyle of a remote and amazing experience. Our connection was through experience and fun and basically both us looking for the same place with different backgrounds and just happened to be at the same place at the same time. That’s how the business was born, it wasn’t born on the “let’s do business together” but around friendship and shared principles.

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

One of the most innovative things we did was to bring professional Coworking spaces into our Selinas. That allowed freelancers, corporate employees and digital nomads to travel and maintain a high level of work in our spaces. The reality is that people need to work, even if people think that when they go off the grid they are going to stop working the truth is that they will keep checking their phone, answering their emails and staying connected to what they do.

This applies more to people that want to travel for more time, let’s say 4–5 months they have to be able to maintain a productive and professional work time. The second is that Selina is not just staying at these prime locations in top cities around the world, but at the same time, we are going to surprise our customers with off the grid and remote locations challenging them to have a different experience.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

For those who want to travel longer and maintain a high level of work, they can find low-cost or high-cost accommodations with professional co-workings and you can add experiences and wellness factors too. Soon, people will be able to pay a monthly fee and they will be able to choose any location in the world to stay for as long as they want. Our customers want flexibility and to travel longer to experience more. We serve them by offering co-working spaces and locations all around the world so they will have more to choose from.

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

The world will need to change their mindset to be able to evolve and adapt to the new generations. You will see new technologies around the hospitality business — this will also change how we usually approach vacation or even how we negotiate a contract to work at a new company. It’s what’s coming and we’re already seeing the beginning.

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

1. One big thing is that hospitality companies will need to allow full flexibility to their guests to cancel, change and move to other places.

2. Hospitality companies will turn to become more lifestyle and content-oriented.

3. Hospitality will be healthier when it comes to food and beverage offerings. They will need to encourage guests to have a more active role in wellness activities. This is a generation that cares and is conscious of their health and how to improve it.

4. Technology for hospitality will need to be two or three clicks away. Customers will need to book everything in less than a minute, if not they will go to other platforms that will fill this need.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

My perfect experience is always to not plan, to allow the instinct of the traveler guide the trip. When you are having fun, you want to stay somewhere longer. When you don’t you want to change the vibe and move to another place. Get to know the community, go to places locals recommend and really immerse yourself in that place. That’s truly giving you the opportunity to learn through experiences.

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

We built a program call “Selina Gives Back” which is our social responsibility strategy. We are using the Selina spaces, employees and the Selina Academy, an academy that we created to train our teams, to teach unemployed people in the community and find them a job within the community or in some cases at Selina. Selina opens spaces all around the world and we are using them to positively impact the communities we’re arriving in.

You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be?

I would look to create the biggest travel university in the world by traveling the world in 3 or 4 years learning cultures and making friends. The world will appreciate friendships, culture learning, visiting new spaces and experiences. It would be one of the biggest things that I do plan in the future to try and fulfill through the education platform in Selina.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

Facebook and Instagram: Rafimuseri

Linkedin: Rafael Museri

Thank you for all of these great insights!


The Future of Travel: “Hospitality will be healthier when it comes to food and beverage offerings”… was originally published in Authority Magazine on Medium, where people are continuing the conversation by highlighting and responding to this story.

The Future Of Travel: “I envision we’ll have communities of like-minded travelers getting…

The Future Of Travel: “I envision we’ll have communities of like-minded travelers getting notifications of a few trips each week that are a perfect fit for them” with Ryland King and Candice Georgiadis

In the next five years I envision we’ll have communities of like-minded travelers getting notifications of a few trips each week that are a perfect fit for them. It will be like a social media feed, but for actual trips.

As part of my series about “exciting developments in the travel industry over the next five years”, I had the pleasure of interviewing Ryland King, Founder & CEO of Surf Trip List. As CEO, Ryland oversees growth, partner and customer relations and product across Surf Trip List’s US footprint. Prior to founding Surf Trip List in 2018, Ryland founded an environmental education nonprofit, Sprout Up, where his work was recognized by the Clinton Global Initiative, VH1’s Do Something Awards and Forbes Top 12 Do-Good Entrepreneurs Under 25.

Thank you so much for joining us! Can you tell us a story about what brought you to this specific career path?

This career path started from a simple question — “Where should I take my son on a surf trip?” I grew up surfing, and I’m asked questions like this all the time. But this time was different. It was my girlfriend’s aunt asking me and I had to perform, you know? 🙂 I started asking her questions like, “US or International?”, “Big resort or boutique hotel?”, etc. She starting telling me her preferences about the location and kept mentioning that she also wanted a cheap flight… And that’s when it hit me: What if, instead of wasting hours looking for the perfect trip and not finding one, she could get alerts that match her preferences anytime a flight deal came out to a destination.

From that moment on, that’s what I’ve been building.

Can you share the most interesting story that happened to you since you started your career?

When I started Surf Trip List, I had no clue how to make any of it happen. But I wanted to get something out fast. It didn’t matter how good or bad it was, just that I made something. So I built a spreadsheet for the first 2 days. I then built that into a Squarespace site without any code over the next 5-days. (I wrote about those first 7 days here.)

Once that was out and I saw a good response, I knew I needed something more flexible than a Squarespace site. I started asking my engineering friends how I could learn to code. There basic answer was “Just Google ‘How to build a website’ and start.” So that’s literally what I did.

My friends thought I was a maniac. And to be honest, so did I at some points. But after a few months I was able to build a solid minimum viable product and really test out the idea. A few months ago, I was able to bring on two senior engineers who, beyond being akin to the idea, were inspired to come on board because I had coded the whole thing on my own.

Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson you learned from that?

Last year I went to take my first surf trip using the service. I made this whole big speal about it on social media hoping to get people excited about our first trip. I made my way to the airport, walked to the desk agent and she told me, “I’m sorry, but it looks like your flight left yesterday.” All I could do was laugh. I had shown up a day late and completely missed my flight. It was pretty embarrassing to post to everyone that the first trip using the service didn’t even make it past the bag-check line, but I think they appreciated the honesty.

What do you think makes your company stand out? Can you share a story?

We stand out because we: 1. Breakdown the barrier to entry, 2. Personalize the itinerary, 3. Optimize the planning process, and 4. Lower the cost all for a very niche audience.

For example, a few months back one of our first members found us while searching the internet for family surf adventure trips. Instead of spending hours searching Google and not knowing which surf camps and areas to go to she just told our algorithm: “I want `beginner waves` in `Central America` `between May and August` with a place to stay for `less than $125/night.`”

A few weeks after joining our membership she got jumped on one of our cheap flight alerts to Costa Rica for $297 round trip, and stayed with our partner, Witchs Rock Surf Camp in front of amazing beginner waves in Tamarindo.

Which tips would you recommend to your colleagues in your industry to help them to thrive and not “burn out”? Can you share a story about that?

In college, I founded an environmental education non-profit that grew incredibly fast. In five years it went from just an idea in my head to managing over 200+ college student volunteers in five cities throughout California.

I worked insane hours for years. So much so that my I was gifted office supplies by my parents on my 23rd birthday. A few months after that I hit burnout and had a massive breakdown.

I went through counseling, got my degree (which I had written off) and realigned my life. I wouldn’t give any part of the journey up, but boy have I dealt with burn out.

The most helpful thing I do today to help with burnout is to have a checklist of “To do”s and “Won’t do”s. What’s in each category constantly changes as each day develops. I like to think the “won’t do” list is almost more important than the “to do” list. 😉

None of us are able to achieve success without some help along the way. Is there a particular person who you are grateful towards who helped get you to where you are? Can you share a story?

This list is endless for me. I feel so fortunate to have worked with such amazing people over the last 10 years. If I was to pick one it would be my co-founders from Sprout Up — Nick and Tanya. Both of them took a huge bet on my idea when I was 19. They were both better than me in countless ways (and probably still are) and their work ethic pushed me so far in such a short time. Beyond that they are amazingly kind and genuine humans. Without them, I wouldn’t be anywhere near where I am today. Thank you, guys!

Let’s jump to the core of our discussion. Can you share with our readers about the innovations that you are bringing to the travel and hospitality industries?

Surf Trip List’s membership model is personalizing and massively lowering the cost of surf travel. We take in exactly what our members want out of surf trip — skill level, activities, region and cost. In return our members immediately get deal access to all of our hand-selected beachfront stay partners, and begin getting alerts anytime we find a flight deal to a location that matches their trip preferences. We also don’t take any commission from our partners. Instead, we pass those savings to our members who save over $300 on an average trip for just $29/yr.

Which “pain point” are you trying to address by introducing this innovation?

So many people love adventure travel, but they 1. Don’t know where to go, 2. Hate how much it costs to get there, and 3. Can’t stand how much research and planning is necessary. We take care of all of that and package it up into a few high quality email alerts each week. All that’s left for our members to do is pick the trip they want to take!

How do you envision that this might disrupt the status quo?

The normal adventure trip today is booked through a commission-based travel agency. That’s an issue because they are making 10–15% when you book your trip.

With us you pay a small yearly membership at $29/yr. In return we give that 10–15% commission back to you, and you save an average of $150 on a week-long stay at one of our hand-picked beachfront stay partners. Beyond that, we also send you cheap flight alerts on full-service airlines so you know you’re getting the best flight possible too.

If you take one trip a year, it’s completely worth it, and most adventurous people are itching to take at least one trip per year.

Can you share 5 examples of how travel and hospitality companies will be adjusting over the next five years to the new ways that consumers like to travel?

In the next five years I envision we’ll have communities of like-minded travelers getting notifications of a few trips each week that are a perfect fit for them. It will be like a social media feed, but for actual trips.

You are a “travel insider”. How would you describe your “perfect vacation experience”?

My perfect vacation experience would be arriving at a warm-water surf destination where the waves are going off. I stay on the sand, right in front of the waves and pick up a quality surfboard so I don’t have to fly with one. Once there, it’s relaxing with friends and family and surfing 4–5 hours a day. Let’s go!

Can you share with our readers how have you used your success to bring goodness to the world?

In 2015 one of my previous staff members reached out to me about bringing 100% energy-free, safe drinking water systems to developing communities in need. In the three years since, he’s created a nonprofit, Gravity Water, and has grown it from an idea to providing over 10,000 school-children in Nepal with self-sustaining, clean drinking-water with nearly $100,000/yr in annual revenue. I’ve Chaired the Board during this time and like to think that some of my past experiences and advice have been a part of their accomplishments.

You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂

Smile at one stranger each day.

How can our readers follow you on social media?

I share the ups and downs of growing Surf Trip List almost everyday on my Twitter @rylandking. Feel free to follow along!

This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for joining us!


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